Where Do Space Marines Keep Their Ammo
FALLUJAH, Iraq -- The standard fighting load for Marines in Iraq is anything but 'standard.' Sure, there are the 'must-have' items - weapon, first aid kit, helmet and flak jacket - but when it comes to the 'nice-to-haves' it's every Marine for himself.
They do carry ammunition. Fluff-wise they would have to and it has often been noted of a space marine reloading, unless it is a Legion of the Damned who willful manifestations. Model-wise they usually do come with ammo pouches, grenades and the likes to put on the model, but thats more detail to paint than anyone really wants to do. In the Space Wolf trilogy and some older lore the backpack on space marines can dispense grenades, ammo and small equipment pieces. However most of tge backpack is the generator for their armour New lore may have changed this info.
'We're leaving on a patrol in five minutes! Get your gear together!' said Staff Sgt. Christian B. Amason, a platoon sergeant for Company G, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, assigned to the 1st Marine Division.
That used to be a cut and dry order, but with today's gear, combat loads are tailor fitted. Even packs come with detachable pouches, adding and taking away space for gear. It's a balancing act. Too much gear, it weighs the Marine down. Too little, and they suffer needlessly.
Take Amason, for example. He's a former Army Special Forces soldier and Marine sniper. He's got a good number of patrols under his belt. He knows what he needs and what he can live without when he takes to the field.
'I always take what I call my catch-all-gear,' explained Amason, a 32-year-old from Elora, Tenn. 'Those are the basics like your weapon, ammunition, optics, navigational equipment and flak jacket and helmet. With a water supply, that makes for at least 30 pounds on your upper body. If you're a (machine) gunner, then it could easily be 50 pounds you're carrying.'
Amason knows what will keep him alive in the field, but there is one item with which he never parts.
'No matter where I go in the field, I always take my 'woobie,' he added. 'That's what my wife calls my poncho liner.'
According to Amason, the poncho liner is the best piece of gear he has, keeping him warm in cold weather and cool in hot weather. Other Marines have different necessities they insist on carrying.
'I'm the go-to-guy on a patrol, a regular walking 'Saigon Sam's,' said Lance Cpl. Ryan P. Taylor, in reference to the military supply store just outside Camp Lejeune, N.C.
The Dumfries, Va. rifleman is known to always have a steady supply of chemical lights, parachute cord, fly tape, shoe-goo used to repair boots and superglue, among other things in his pack.
'You never know when you're going to need something, so I try to bring it with me,' he added.
The mainstay of infantrymen in the field is undoubtedly chow. If not carrying the Meals, Ready-to-Eat they are issued, many Marines have a good supply of junk food.
This is especially true for Sgt. James M. Back, a platoon guide from Logan, Utah. Known as 'Snacks' to his platoon mates, the Marine always has a steady supply of food.
'I blame it on my wife,' he said 'She really takes care of me with care packages, so everyone knows to come to me for junk food.'
Back also knows how to pack for a patrol. Carrying extra sergeant chevrons, zip ties, caffeine pills for late patrols, different sized-batteries, spare socks, a whistle, sunscreen and a flashlight, Back feels prepared for whatever may come.
'Marines learn from the experience of their squad leaders and then find out for themselves what works for them,' Back said. 'It really comes down to what you're willing to carry to be prepared for whatever you could get into.'
Do Space Marines make an effort to salvage gear from their fallen comrades? |
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Water-Caste Negotiator | I know during an extended battle they will take weapons or ammo from other dead Space Marines, but my question more refers to large scale, post-battle salvaging. After a battle is over do the Space Marines go back to collect the bodies of their dead brothers and then keep the old armor(if it isn't destroyed) or weapons? There are relic items for each chapter that would surely be reclaimed if at all possible, but do they care about going back for random Brother Joe's bolter and helmet or does the Apothecary take the gene-seed and leave the rest to the vultures(or whatever alien equivalent is on the planey)? Are there servitors that head down to the planet after a battle to clean up, do they call in the Mechanicum to come in and scavenge useful bits, or do they just leave the mess for the new planetary government to deal with when they get there? | |
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard | Each chapter has different practices for what they do with the bodies, but they for sure recover fallen wargear. Power Armour becomes relics to the chapter when bits and pieces of it are worn by marines who do heroic things, after all. | |
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Regular Dakkanaut |
Absolutely. Many suits of power armour are repaired and used by other space marines, while some (which either cannot be repaired or are extra special) are kept as relics. | |
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Implacable Skitarii | I guess servitors and chapter serfs would do most of the work, with techmarines to supervize. I don't think they'd be happy to let people outside the chapter touch their stuff, except for techpriests, maybe. | |
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Water-Caste Negotiator | Nice! Thank you all for the information! | |
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Longtime Dakkanaut | The fluff is kinda contradictory here. As you said, on one hand, you have relics thousands of years old, on the other, dumb thing about apothecaries is them supposedly ruining armour of the fallen every time to extract seed (instead of just opening it or something), then you have melta and plasma destroying gear with such ease you wonder how there any relics left after a century, never mind millennium. Unless said 'relics' are just tiny fragments of original plate left bolted onto brand new one. And yes, most chapters does salvage everything (and I don't see why people above assume it's being done by serfs), bodies to bury, gear to repair, if only because the stuff is really expensive and you don't want to be in AdMech debt. In fact, some chapters are hated for salvaging the battlefields of other chapters to loot everything that was not nailed down. | |
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Splattered With Acrylic Paint | I'm sure I read in BL books during extended battles the suits of armour become mix and match as they replaced broken pieces with good ones from fallen allies. | |
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Longtime Dakkanaut |
Yes, they are (you can even see it on tactical squad photo) but the problem is with supposedly 'intact', relic plates thousands of years old as seen on various captains and honor guard squads. Or weapons dating back to Heresy, especially relic chainswords that somehow were never parried by enemy power weapons. Funnily enough, for being more elite than other SM, Deathwatch and Grey Knights both sport gear that could have been made recently, no need to hand-wave stuff away. | |
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord | Pretty much this as far as I know. Space marines have legions of servitors and serfs to do non-combat work. They simply aren't part of the game because they aren't taking part in battles. | |
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Confessor Of Sins | An effort to salvage? Marines are scavengers, reclaiming every last bit of technology they can from fallen comrades. They'll even sacrifice good men for the purpose of reclaiming disabled vehicles. After all, new marines can be made as long as you have enough geneseed in storage, and every marine carries the stuff for two new ones. They could make a lot of new marines if they didn't fight for a couple centuries, but getting them wargear takes work. So yes, they will loot battlefields. |
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